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Friday, July 30, 2010

Redwood Demands Referendum On Loss Of Sovereignty















OK, David Cameron.  Here is your chance.


You promised there would be a referendum offered to the British people on any loss of sovereignty to the EU.  Here we have just such a thing being proposed.


Open Europe -


The Home Secretary, Theresa May, this week announced that the UK will opt in to negotiations on the controversial European Investigation Order (EIO). This will give EU police forces the right to request that UK police seek out and share evidence on criminal suspects. The decision to opt in poses fundamental questions about safeguards for civil liberties and whether police resources will be put under undue pressure as a result. It was also the first major test of the Coalition Government's policy of deciding on EU justice and home affairs legislation on a "case-by-case basis". Furthermore, it certainly casts doubt on the Conservatives' pre-election pledge to repatriate EU powers over policing and criminal justice.











May has already admitted that there are parts of the EIO that the Government doesn't like. But, under the rules of the Lisbon Treaty, the final decision will be taken by qualified majority voting in agreement with the European Parliament, meaning that the UK will be powerless to veto unwanted elements or any new additions added by MEPs, for example. Once opted in, the UK cannot opt out if the proposal takes on a form with which it doesn't agree. Conservative MP John Redwood, speaking in the Commons debate, made the point that if the UK is not able to withdraw from the EIO, if the final product is "different to what was advertised", then opting in must surely represent a loss of sovereignty. (Hansard, 27 July)












John Redwood speaks politely.  But in truth, this is make or break.


Is Cameron to be trusted ? 

















It looks not.


http://synonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2010/07/cameron-goes-native.html


Redwood should push for the promised referendum.   If he doesn't, his credibility will be reduced, after stating he believes this situation comes within the terms of the referendum promise.  A summer rebellion is brewing.  It had better happen now.  It can either be a short violent battle, or a medium term grind.   A lot will hang on Labour MPs being willing to support.  If the government can be defeated, it would be a turning point.


Damn all those fools who voted UKIP, and kept the numbers of Conservative backbenchers down.  This is the only battle that counts.

















8 comments:

Tcheuchter said...

Damn all those fools who voted Conservative - it was obvious the current leadership is thoroughly untrustworthy on Europe (cast iron, referendum, not ruled by....).

tapestry said...

Our job is to elect MPs. They choose their leader. If we choose good MPs they will kick out wrong leaders. UKIP's not even in the game. But because of UKIP voters we have LIb Dems and a coalition which muddies the waters.

30 more backbenchers in the 1922 would have loaded the dice far more favourably for the coming battles.

As I say, Damn Those Fools who Voted UKIP.

The Boiling Frog said...

As I say, Damn Those Fools who Voted UKIP.

I think that is what is known as blaming someone else, because you've just discovered the Tories have turned out to be the Europhiles everyone else knew they were.

It doesn't matter how many backbenchers they have they won't do anything (with the honourable exception of Carswell). All noise and hot air from the leadership downwards. Majority or no majority.

Damn the Tories, who will never admit that they aren't really Eurosceptic.

tapestry said...

Negative. Negative. Our enemies will be delighted with your determination to see only failure, Frog.

The Boiling Frog said...

It's not negative, it's just the truth.

Our enemies must be over the moon with a Tory Government - they speak Euroscpetic but keep signing up to EU policies. The perfect combination for our Brussels masters.

tapestry said...

There are many backbenchers who might undermine Cameron over an EU issue. I wish there were more of them.

The Euro could be approaching a collapse in the next downwave. Consumer confidence is tumbling. The bail-outs will evaporate. There will be chances to move on EU weakness.

The past is not in dispute. It is the future that matters.

Tcheuchter said...

Much of the trouble with the Tories is that the local associations cannot appoint the candidate of their choice, but have a favourite of central office foisted upon them.

Until the members take a firm hold of the party the Tories will remain EU Trojan horse it has become.

tapestry said...

They tried to load the marginals with A Listers. The attempt failed for two reasons.

First the marginals were held by Labour as they took them with heavy postal voting scams.

Second the Constituencies fought the Francis Maude tendency every inch of the way.

If only UKIP would come back, the active members could fight off the europhile attempt to get control of the party's constituencies.

That's the tragedy of UKIP. They are fighting for a fantasy when the real battle is going on under their noses. Bring UKIP activism back into the Conservative Party, the number of eurosceptic MPs would increase yet further, and the party leadership could be got rid of in five seconds if it handed over sovereignty as Cameron and May are now proposing over European powers.

The dog would wag the tail once more.