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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

COIR Says NO is Pulling Ahead


This is the first claim made on the Coir website about the success of their campaign. There is no reason to disbelieve it. The rationale for the NO gaining ground that it gives, reads as if it's well thought through, intelligent and genuine, in my opinion.

It provides a confirming story to back up the result of The Gael Poll, and gives a good description of what's going on at street level.

From the COIR website today -

Cóir have welcomed the result of a poll carried out by Gael Poll which found that, after weeks of intensive campaigning, the No vote has pulled ahead.

Gael Poll say they polled 1,500 respondents in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Kilkenny, Galway, Athlone, Tralee, Dundalk and Letterkenny over the course of six days last week. The respondents were asked one single question: How do you intend to vote in the Lisbon Treaty Referendum? Excluding Don’t Knows, 59% replied No while 41% said they would vote Yes to the treaty.

Campaigners right across the country canvassing with Cóir say that the poll comes close to their own experience that the No vote is pulling ahead in defiance of the “dire threats being made by supporters of the treaty” as Cóir’s campaign intensifies in the last 10 days before the referendum.

“Voters are more informed thanks to the huge canvass we’ve undertaken, and the popularity of Cóir’s website. And the anger at the handling of the economic crisis is overcoming the fear kindled by the Yes campaign in relation to the downturn,” said spokesman Richard Greene.

He added that supporters of the Treaty had “overplayed the fear card” saying that “all the fear-mongering has worn thin and people are asking real questions at the doors – about jobs, wages, the power of the EU Court and our future in Europe.” Mr Greene noted that last week’s Wall Street Journal had described the government’s pro-Lisbon campaign as “peddling phantom terrors”.

“People have been listening to politicians falsely warning of financial ruin if the treaty wasn’t passed, but now the anger felt by voters at NAMA, at job losses, and at cuts, is allowing voters to overcome that fear,” said the Cóir spokesman. “We’re presenting the facts about the treaty to voters; about threats to wages, to jobs, about our loss of power in Europe, and the ability to the EU to raise taxes on us, and people are increasingly telling us at the doors that they will vote No”.


COIR Campaign website is www.coircampaign.org

Link to original 'NO is pulling ahead' on Coir website HERE

9 comments:

Craig said...

Both the story and the Gael Poll it cites are genuine. The No side is doing better than is being portrayed in the mainstream media. Its successes are on the streets and doorways, and I hope that it enough to swing the vote on October 2nd despite the blizzard of money and publicity supporting the Yes side.

Anonymous said...

That is great to hear, Craig.

There are a lot of folks in the UK who are watching this one very closely.

Is the one-sided nature of the coverage being picked up on by ordinary people over there?

Cheers.

tapestry said...

Most people haven't one clue about it either way. The politically-minded are aware to some extent, but there is little reporting. It's only those watching on the net - precious few.

By the way are you anonymous from earlier comments? Any hints as to your ID, web presence or viewpoint ?

tapestry said...

This poster is interesting. It kinda says that the YES side has all the power and all the money, but then we're younger and sexier and will outlive you corrupt ugly old farts.

Emerald Elvis is making a similar statement. OK they've got the money and the power, but we've got the talent and are sexier.

It's the way of suppressed political movements to feel very sexy ! A way of expressing hope and optimism while speech is drowned out. I am sure the audience picks up the vibe and likes it. I love it myself !

Anonymous said...

"By the way are you anonymous from earlier comments?"

Yes, that is me.

"Any hints as to your ID, web presence or viewpoint ?"

I am a concerned Eurosceptic from Britain. I do hope the Irish stick to their guns. This whole re-vote is an appalling affront to democracy. If there is ever a referendum in the UK I intend to vote no.

Do you think Cameron will hold a referendum if it has come into force before his election next year?

I can't make my mind up what effect an Irish No vote will have on our chances of a referendum. Perhaps Cameron will argue that the Lisbon is dead so there is no need. But then if the Irish vote yes, he may argue that Lisbon is in force so there is nothing he can do.

The Czechs may well hold on and we in the UK will be the cavalry. I do get the impression that a British no would result in us being asked to leave the EU, though.

What political effect would a no vote in the UK have on the EU do you think?

tapestry said...

The future course of events is much harder to predict than people realise.

What will Cameron do if this or if that?

It is better to look at the course he is gradually taking, and see where his heart lies if we can. The mechanics of the predictions are so unknowable.

Lisbon and the EU are creaking and will topple, Cameron or not, but Cameron (with Hague at his elbow) could do much to assist the process of building a better future for Britain's international relations, and securing Britain as an independent entity.

So few people actually read the details of their speeches, which give many of the answers. Take Hague's July 23rd Foreign Policy speech, on conservatives.com.

As people don't read speeches, we are left with 'whatever ignorant people believe' debate.

The first thing is how big his majority will be, and will he win ?

I see a team of loyal known eurosceptics around him, Hannan, Helmer , Carswell, Redwood, IDS and many others I trust. If they back Cameron unconditionally then so do I.

Anonymous said...

Cheers, Tap,

It is always good to read people's predictions, particularly if they believe that the end of the EU is close.

Do you believe that Cameron is a withdrawalist at heart? He is a protege of Michael Howard who was a sceptic if I recall.


As far as the end of the EU is concerned, it may go through a cycle of crises, to which it responds by strengthening its hold over the member nations, for some time. In that sense it may get stronger every day until it collapses suddenly.

I am under no illusions that if Lisbon-Enabling Act comes in, the buggers will even go as far as physically suppressing opposition.

I agree that the EU is finished. It is a moot point as to how many of us will see that day though, I am afraid.

Cheers again.

tapestry said...

Yes.

Craig said...

Is the one-sided nature of the coverage being picked up on by ordinary people over there?

I think some people are starting to catch on to it. I have heard the bias being discussed on the radio and there was even an item about it on a TV news programme. But most are turning a blind eye to it, out of ignorance or malice.